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	<title>Comments on: Why is NYC &#8220;the next logical step&#8221;?</title>
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		<title>By: Scott Walters</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott Walters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 13:13:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hans -- The Immediate Theatre does excellent work, and by teaming with NCStage you are making a good step. To leave for another city means you are starting over again, which may or may not make sense. Is your goal to direct for other people, or to run a theatre full time? Different goals. Right now, I think Immediate Theatre needs to do two things: create more work, and build a business model that gets you out of working as a bartender. I think that is doable, but may not be what interests you. I recently read a blog entry from someone whose friend is a regional theatre director, and who says his price is $5000 a show. At that rate, it takes a lot of shows strung together in a row and a lot of traveling to make a reasonable living. If that is your idea of how you'd like to make your living, then great! If not, think it through.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hans &#8212; The Immediate Theatre does excellent work, and by teaming with NCStage you are making a good step. To leave for another city means you are starting over again, which may or may not make sense. Is your goal to direct for other people, or to run a theatre full time? Different goals. Right now, I think Immediate Theatre needs to do two things: create more work, and build a business model that gets you out of working as a bartender. I think that is doable, but may not be what interests you. I recently read a blog entry from someone whose friend is a regional theatre director, and who says his price is $5000 a show. At that rate, it takes a lot of shows strung together in a row and a lot of traveling to make a reasonable living. If that is your idea of how you&#8217;d like to make your living, then great! If not, think it through.</p>
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		<title>By: Why is NYC the next logical step? Part Deux &#124; The Director Sector</title>
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		<dc:creator>Why is NYC the next logical step? Part Deux &#124; The Director Sector</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 04:24:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Within these pages you will find my thoughts, philosophies, rants, suggestions, stories, reviews, and concepts that I have discovered and developed on my journey through life.      &#171; Why is NYC &#8220;the next logical step&#8221;? [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Within these pages you will find my thoughts, philosophies, rants, suggestions, stories, reviews, and concepts that I have discovered and developed on my journey through life.      &laquo; Why is NYC &#8220;the next logical step&#8221;? [...]</p>
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		<title>By: devilvet</title>
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		<dc:creator>devilvet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 04:20:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Figure out where you want to live...and then make art there I think is the answer</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Figure out where you want to live&#8230;and then make art there I think is the answer</p>
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		<title>By: Alison</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 18:27:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Somehow, I knew I would wind up being a (partial) subject of one of your blogs.  (And I don't mind - you have very strong opinions.)

I agree with Hans' initial point so, so much.  See, New York WAS the next logical step for me - but NOT the ending point, or even the capstone to my theatre career.  We're all striving for something different.  And while no one would argue with a starring role, most of us willingly accept it's a dream and not a reality.  I, too, plan to move back to NC and kick my drive back into gear.  Because I know a LOT more now than I did when I left, and I plan to use that experience and knowledge for a whole lot of good.

And THAT is why I moved to New York.  Not for the professional experience.  But for the life experience.  Now, instead of being "24 going on 40," I am 26 going on 27, a little less restless and a lot more ready to just enjoy the hell out of my talent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Somehow, I knew I would wind up being a (partial) subject of one of your blogs.  (And I don&#8217;t mind - you have very strong opinions.)</p>
<p>I agree with Hans&#8217; initial point so, so much.  See, New York WAS the next logical step for me - but NOT the ending point, or even the capstone to my theatre career.  We&#8217;re all striving for something different.  And while no one would argue with a starring role, most of us willingly accept it&#8217;s a dream and not a reality.  I, too, plan to move back to NC and kick my drive back into gear.  Because I know a LOT more now than I did when I left, and I plan to use that experience and knowledge for a whole lot of good.</p>
<p>And THAT is why I moved to New York.  Not for the professional experience.  But for the life experience.  Now, instead of being &#8220;24 going on 40,&#8221; I am 26 going on 27, a little less restless and a lot more ready to just enjoy the hell out of my talent.</p>
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		<title>By: RebeccaZ</title>
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		<dc:creator>RebeccaZ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 14:55:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And it's a part of this ever-loving game (if you think of it as a game, which I do.)  Yeah, you could go to St. Louis after graduating from college.  Or New Orleans, say.  (Which I did.)  And then you realize that your type of theatre will take eons to build because the region and the town just wants to see more of its own made by more of its type of people.  And you just don't want to make that community compromise because you have your own voice that you want to be heard - being 25 years of age and all.  And, if you want to throw your hat into the ring with a variety of different people who could make things happen for you, or not, at least there's an even playing field, you decide to go to one of the bigger cities.  It's very exciting and cool to see your show listed alongside Steppenwolf in a reviewer's breakdown of their "Best of the Year" articles - whether you made money on the show or not.  You can start from nothing and make something in a quicker amount of time or you can continue making nothing, but at least you were able to see if you could "cut it" a little bit in a huge ocean as opposed to the small puddle.   And that seems worth it.  And the hope that someday you might finally make a little money to go along with the excitement seems like more of a possibility because you're showing you're a viable choice in a big city.   

And, yes ... I might decide to take our company elsewhere based on a lot of different factors (I'm past the age of 25 but still have a bit of wanderlust in me), but I'm glad to say that I gave Chicago a go of it, instead of always wondering what it would be like.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And it&#8217;s a part of this ever-loving game (if you think of it as a game, which I do.)  Yeah, you could go to St. Louis after graduating from college.  Or New Orleans, say.  (Which I did.)  And then you realize that your type of theatre will take eons to build because the region and the town just wants to see more of its own made by more of its type of people.  And you just don&#8217;t want to make that community compromise because you have your own voice that you want to be heard - being 25 years of age and all.  And, if you want to throw your hat into the ring with a variety of different people who could make things happen for you, or not, at least there&#8217;s an even playing field, you decide to go to one of the bigger cities.  It&#8217;s very exciting and cool to see your show listed alongside Steppenwolf in a reviewer&#8217;s breakdown of their &#8220;Best of the Year&#8221; articles - whether you made money on the show or not.  You can start from nothing and make something in a quicker amount of time or you can continue making nothing, but at least you were able to see if you could &#8220;cut it&#8221; a little bit in a huge ocean as opposed to the small puddle.   And that seems worth it.  And the hope that someday you might finally make a little money to go along with the excitement seems like more of a possibility because you&#8217;re showing you&#8217;re a viable choice in a big city.   </p>
<p>And, yes &#8230; I might decide to take our company elsewhere based on a lot of different factors (I&#8217;m past the age of 25 but still have a bit of wanderlust in me), but I&#8217;m glad to say that I gave Chicago a go of it, instead of always wondering what it would be like.</p>
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		<title>By: Hans</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 03:50:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your friend won't find what he's expecting, that's almost guaranteed. But he could do a lot worse.

I moved to New York before I knew why I should, and I lived in Chicago for a while too. In both of those cities, I had a few theatre connections, but I never pushed them. I had exactly one theatre experience in each location, each completely unremarkable, even unnotable. But I looked around and learned a lot about what it takes to get anywhere in theatre (no matter where you are), and one thing is irreplaceable in that quest: drive. I didn't have it in either city, but I figured out what it looked like, and then I moved to Asheville NC and kicked it into gear.

My point is that your friend might have a romanticized view of moving to Chicago to "make it", especially as evidenced by his declaration of willingness to live in his car (yeah sure, but where you gonna park it?), and he may be in for a rude awakening, but perhaps such an awakening is exactly what he needs. To figure out where to go next and how to get there. To develop a plan that's a lot more substantial and implementable than the simple plan "to get discovered". Flailing around a bit can be a huge waste of time, but only if one abandons what one was flailing towards in the first place. And maybe not even then...

As for Scott's comment: I've lived in the Prof's own town for a couple of years now and am once again considering the very step he questions. The reason is that I've now been hired to direct at the professional regional theatre level, but I'm still working at a bar, often full-time. I'm on a new level now, professionally-speaking, and to really take advantage of that perhaps I need to locate myself in one of the major theatre centers of America. Because won't most professional theatres across the country be more likely to hire someone out of New York than out of a small city in the mountains of Western North Carolina? It's unfair and more that a little stupid, but the fact remains.

Don't get me wrong, Asheville gets great press these days, and the very mission of my own theatre company is to try to reverse the artistic exchange in America, taking artists &lt;em&gt;to&lt;/em&gt; New York or Chicago instead of toeing the line that all real talent in this country emanates &lt;em&gt;from&lt;/em&gt; those places. But a livable salary from my company is years away yet, and in the meantime the driven artist in me needs to be getting out of restaurants and into theatres as much as he possibly can. Is a place like Asheville the ideal homebase from which to do that? I have my doubts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your friend won&#8217;t find what he&#8217;s expecting, that&#8217;s almost guaranteed. But he could do a lot worse.</p>
<p>I moved to New York before I knew why I should, and I lived in Chicago for a while too. In both of those cities, I had a few theatre connections, but I never pushed them. I had exactly one theatre experience in each location, each completely unremarkable, even unnotable. But I looked around and learned a lot about what it takes to get anywhere in theatre (no matter where you are), and one thing is irreplaceable in that quest: drive. I didn&#8217;t have it in either city, but I figured out what it looked like, and then I moved to Asheville NC and kicked it into gear.</p>
<p>My point is that your friend might have a romanticized view of moving to Chicago to &#8220;make it&#8221;, especially as evidenced by his declaration of willingness to live in his car (yeah sure, but where you gonna park it?), and he may be in for a rude awakening, but perhaps such an awakening is exactly what he needs. To figure out where to go next and how to get there. To develop a plan that&#8217;s a lot more substantial and implementable than the simple plan &#8220;to get discovered&#8221;. Flailing around a bit can be a huge waste of time, but only if one abandons what one was flailing towards in the first place. And maybe not even then&#8230;</p>
<p>As for Scott&#8217;s comment: I&#8217;ve lived in the Prof&#8217;s own town for a couple of years now and am once again considering the very step he questions. The reason is that I&#8217;ve now been hired to direct at the professional regional theatre level, but I&#8217;m still working at a bar, often full-time. I&#8217;m on a new level now, professionally-speaking, and to really take advantage of that perhaps I need to locate myself in one of the major theatre centers of America. Because won&#8217;t most professional theatres across the country be more likely to hire someone out of New York than out of a small city in the mountains of Western North Carolina? It&#8217;s unfair and more that a little stupid, but the fact remains.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t get me wrong, Asheville gets great press these days, and the very mission of my own theatre company is to try to reverse the artistic exchange in America, taking artists <em>to</em> New York or Chicago instead of toeing the line that all real talent in this country emanates <em>from</em> those places. But a livable salary from my company is years away yet, and in the meantime the driven artist in me needs to be getting out of restaurants and into theatres as much as he possibly can. Is a place like Asheville the ideal homebase from which to do that? I have my doubts.</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
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		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 23:44:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know where you're coming from, Scott, but NYC is a step on many people's journey, including myself (hopefully).  It's not the final step, but it's A step.  I'd love to do a season on Broadway or Off-Broadway.  I'd love to direct a Broadway or Off-Broadway show.

It's not where I want to spend my entire career, though.

To go back to the horrible gambling analogy, Las Vegas is a gambler's nirvana.  He'd be stupid to live there, because he'd lose all his money at some point, but at the same time, it's a great place to go for a short period of time, even if just to say "I've been there".</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know where you&#8217;re coming from, Scott, but NYC is a step on many people&#8217;s journey, including myself (hopefully).  It&#8217;s not the final step, but it&#8217;s A step.  I&#8217;d love to do a season on Broadway or Off-Broadway.  I&#8217;d love to direct a Broadway or Off-Broadway show.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not where I want to spend my entire career, though.</p>
<p>To go back to the horrible gambling analogy, Las Vegas is a gambler&#8217;s nirvana.  He&#8217;d be stupid to live there, because he&#8217;d lose all his money at some point, but at the same time, it&#8217;s a great place to go for a short period of time, even if just to say &#8220;I&#8217;ve been there&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Walters</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott Walters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 20:35:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why is it a step at all?</description>
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